Western Union Bank Account Method
Method #1 Cashing Out A Bank Account To Western Union
Things You’ll Need
- Fake ID $40
- Bank Account To Take From
- Socks $10 > VIP72.com
- Mint.com – Free
- Burner phone
- Dummy Email
Now we’re going to send ourselves a Western Union using that person’s bank account.
The Method in Detail
Buy a bank account with login credentials. The most popular one is Wells Fargo. However, it doesn’t matter which one you use. You will only need to log into it just once. Make sure you use socks with an IP address within 510 miles of the account you’re trying to log into. Once you’re inside, you’ll grab the account number and routing number, located in the “Account Services” section and the “Statements and Documents” section. Note these down.
Next you’ll get the account holders full name and address. You can grab this from the same section. Note this down as well. You have the option to set up Mint.com. By setting it up, you’ll be able to monitor any deposits made into the account, including the micro deposit Western Union will make if you choose to manually verify your account. This way, you won’t have to log into that account again – risking getting it locked. With the bank account owners full name, last 4 of ssn, address, account number, routing number, and login credentials, we are going to head over to Western Union.com
We will “Send Money Online” using a bank account. The registration page will ask you for the personal information of the sender. Use the name and address you got above. For a phone number, you can use a Google Voice number. Or, if you’re burner is an android/iphone, there are apps you can download that will give you the ability to get different phone numbers.
The 3 I use are:
- Google Voice
This allows me to set multiple numbers up right from my handset. What ever number you choose to use, make sure you can place outgoing calls with it as well – this will be very important. Next is the email. I have one centralized dummy gmail account set up. When I need to create dummy accounts for purposes such as this, I’ll create a new email account, and then I’ll forward all incoming emails to my centralized dummy gmail account. I do this so I don’t have to keep logging in and out of multiple accounts. It saves time. Next, we manually add our bank account to send the funds from. We’ll have to add the account manually with the 2 micro deposits. This will take 12 days.
Use mint.com to keep an eye out for the deposits. When you see them, log back into Western Union and enter them. Next, we choose the amount we want to send, in addition to the person we want to send it to. Keep in mind that Western Union only allows you to send a maximum of $2,999 to a person for pickup or to another bank account. We’ll want to stay below this limit. When I do it, I pick an amount between $2,100 and $2,600. I think this is a good range. Most accounts I use have over $10,000 in it so it’s not a big deal from a funds availability standpoint.
We want to make sure we put a test question on it. In my opinion, it makes it even more secure because only the person you’re sending the money to will know the test question. Most transfers are completed within 23 days, and are available for pickup first thing in the morning around 10am. Western Union will tell you exactly when the funds will be ready for pickup.
IMPORTANT: Here’s where this method is solidified After we finish the transaction and we get our MTCN, we’re going to pick up the phone and call Western Union up. What’s the mindset behind this? Simple. If a fraudster wanted to scam someone like we’re doing, they most likely aren’t going to be wiling to talk on the phone. They’re going to hide behind their computers and cross their fingers while hoping for the best. This is where it pays (literally) to be different. We’re going to call them up and tell them that we just sent a transfer of $X,XXX to someone. We’re going to volunteer to give them more information. Full SSN, DOB.
Why would we do that? We’re going to do it because we need to make sure that this “Someone” get’s the money we’re sending because they desperately need it. This someone needs to always be someone you know – like a family member or a very close friend from college/work. I’m going to give you a sample dialogue/story to follow. This is an actual story I gave. Look at the mindset behind it. “Hi my name is Linda. I just sent some money online using my bank account to my nephew in New York. Here’s my MTCN. I’m just calling to see if there’s anything else you need from me. My full SSN, my DOB? Anything at all? I’m just asking because I need this transfer to go through without any problems or holdups. My nephew is counting on me. I’m all he has. I’ve never sent money with Western Union before, so I want to make sure I do this right. I can’t afford to make a mistake. I used my bank, so when will the money come out? Oh ok on the day it sends? Great. I was just calling to make sure I did everything right. He really needs the money. His father who is my brother, died last year so I look after him. He’s in school and he’s a great student. Anyways, I’m very sorry for going off topic. Is there anything else you need from me? Nothing? Ok great. Thank you for your time.” This is the gist of it. I’m sure you get the point. If you could hear my voice while I’m speaking with them, I’m in character. I’m speaking like someone who really cares about their nephew. I exaggerate like crazy. However, it works.
Their fraud filters kick in when anything over a certain amount is sent. If the agent who looks over that transfer doesn’t like it, they cancel it. By calling in person and actually speaking to someone over the phone and explaining our “situation” to them, our transfers go through without a hitch. The agent we spoke to will mark the transfer saying that they spoke to us and it’s legitimate.
The 3 reasons I like this method:
- It’s an ACH transfer, which means one bank (WesternUnion) takes withdrawals money directly from another bank (our fullz). These types of transfers are the same kinds of transfers that would take place if you deposited a check someone wrote to you. These don’t get blocked because they are more secure than a debit card, which can be lost very easily. Whereas a debit card purchase for $2,100 has a high chance of being declined due to low limit/suspicious activity, an ACH transfer will very rarely be declined if funds are available.
- The money does not come out of the bank account until it is sent to us. It keeps us hidden until it’s too late to do anything about it.
- When you send someone money, you’re sending it to them in the STATE they’re in, not an actual WesternUnion location. So let’s say for shits and giggles that police caught on to what you were doing and were going to set up a trap to bust you. Out of all the Western Unions in the ENTIRE STATE, they would have absolutely no idea which one you were going to pick up the money from. It’s impossible. And this won’t happen by the way – I just wanted to address it in case you were thinking about it. If you have a fake ID, you can accept the transfer under that name. In order to withdrawal the funds, you need to give them a name, the MTCN number, and the answer to a test question.
With Western Union, you don’t NEED to have an actual ID to pick up money. You can tell them you lost your wallet, which is something I actually did have happen to me. The most important things are the MTCN number and the answer to the test question. If you have those 2 things, you’re all set. You’ll be in and out in less than 5 minutes. Make sure you park around the corner/next door when picking up the money. Just in case of cameras. I normally park on the street and will walk the 2 minutes to the Western Union. I also pick up the money from a location 2030 miles from my home. In one case, I even drove 1 hour to another state to pick up 2 wire transfers. An inconvenience? Yeah. Was it worth it? Yeah. I made $4,600 cash in one day.
The best thing is, I’ll never go back to that location again. I go through all these extra steps to be safe. I cannot stress this enough! This is most important to me, and it should be to you. Instead of picking up the money from the store, you can transfer money into your account. The steps are the same. The only difference, is that you’ll enter the routing and account number of your bank drop. Unlike venmo, who seems to cancel everything Bank Account related, you won’t have that issue here. You can do this as many different times as you want. You just need to make sure you use a different identity each time.
Important Points To Remember:
- Go to locations at least 2030 miles away from your home.
- Park away from the Western Union location out of view of their cameras, and walk the 12 minutes to your pickup.
- Don’t look suspect. Smile! Ask how their day is going! Act normal. Keep up a conversation if you can. Keep their minds occupied between processing your order and conversing with you. As far as they’re concerned, you’re picking up money that’s rightfully yours.
Thats it for this method
Yours truly Cahoutgod